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Yanman.be · Sep 04, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Firestorm works really good.

As decoration.

jedi mad hatter · Sep 08, 2006, 05:27 AM // 05:27

I think fire eles have really come into their own with the introduction of ABs and Competative Missions. AoE scatter works well when you want to keep AI monks from healing, since they're moving around.

ubermancer · Sep 08, 2006, 04:42 PM // 16:42

Firestorm is great in PvP. Its viewed as a noob skill, so Warriors dont think twice about staying in Frenzy inside of it. =D [even as Im casting Rodgort's]

S_Serpent · Sep 09, 2006, 09:30 AM // 09:30

I'll like too use Bed of Coals as a defensive skill, or go stand in you own meteorshower if for some reason you foes ran out off it

Shred Dread · Sep 09, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by Carth`

I've seen the same - some people bring it to FoW. I asked one why, and he said he uses it after meteor shower, because when a foe is in meteor shower, he won't run. I don't think he was right, because he was making them run like crazy.

....this story just makes me cringe...

I don't think I know of a better way to waste time and energy than to cast Firestorm after MS. I generally dislike the term "n00b", but that guy who cast Firestorm after Meteor Shower definitely qualifies.

Vladmir Mironov · Sep 11, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Since when do people bring Firestorm into FoW?
I'm an Elementalist and never bring it and haven't really seen it brought there.

Pebbles · Sep 13, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52

It's very good on Oni I find.

Have you seen oni goto work on the rest of your team with that 100% chance double striking and insane amounts of melee damage as a base? Unless the group of 4 of them hits a stance warrior you are royally screwed any target will be dead before the monks can target and cast.

Firestorm is great like this tho on oni if there running in and out of firestorms there not double striking or scoring there spike combo attacks, It massivly reduces the threat large oni spawns pose to a party... terrified of the stuff even when it dose only light damage to them and there high armor I've actually seen oni abort there attacks mid-way to run from it.

It's only other use is scaring PvE monks or defending your monks if there getting mobbed by some scary spawn.

however usually I don't bring it with me unless I know there are likley to be lots of oni. breath of fire makes for a better finishing non-exaughtion nuke. As metor is also somwhat effective at dispatching sin or warrior attackers.

convict · Sep 14, 2006, 09:55 AM // 09:55

imo, lava font is better than firestorm is scattering aggro.
but i'd much rather use bed of coals. single second cast and
very effective repelling.

Trylo · Sep 14, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57

if you're living the 2 seconds you need to cast lava font or bed of coals your foe is doing something wrong.

Double Dragon (bad elite, but an example none the less) and FlameBurst (decent) and Inferno are the only skills i want to see people using close up. starburst is kinda useless as an ele because you shouldnt be near a foe in the first place...and somehow with the short recharge people think its ok to be following a war...

how about we just figure out fire sucks?

convict · Sep 15, 2006, 10:43 AM // 10:43

your foe would be doing something wrong in PvP, in PvE i'm not so sure
they have a conscience

joncoish · Sep 16, 2006, 04:12 PM // 16:12

I used to use firestorm in conjunction with meteor shower. Cast meteor shower, cast firestorm while the mobs are being knocked down, and then fireball, but I run with henchman anyway, mainly because I don't need stupid assholes screaming at me because they take a freakin game too seriously. If someone gave me shit because I made a mistake running a mission, I'd say RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you right back!

Tay Zendreth · Sep 19, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Interesting debate here guys. At the end of the day it all comes down to your character build, the build of the party around you and also the area you are in and the nasties you are likely to encounter.

So, where to use firestorm ?

I will always take it if I am helping people with Divinity coast bonus - the scatter effect really helps to keep the villagers alive until you can protect them properly.

Against casters like the mersaat for example, meteor shower followed by firestorm and fireball will sort out most groups before they have time to float away, but breath of fire or rodgorts is equally effective

Areas with ice imps is another where I would probably take it - drop a couple using renewal on large mobs to disrupt their casting and keep them moving while the warrs chew them up.

Finally - THK, would always take it to drop on the king if anything got through to give party time to regroup and heal him.

Maria The Princess · Sep 21, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25

i always take lava font with me in case the monk gets attaked and cornered

Lordhelmos · Sep 22, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30

Bed of coals is superior for scatter tactics. It has a low cast time and affects your location so it makes it easier to control. For example, if my monk is under heavy fire i just run to him and bed of coals the area. Enemies burn or run and take decent damage if they stick around and my monk stays happy. Firestorm just plain sucks... the damage is crap, it can totally miss your enemy, and also scatters mobs or scatter the wrong area.... someone used it in a championship game awhile back.... im not sure why. Ditch it and grab something better like breath or fire, lavafont, or bed of coals.... too bad they nerfed the bed to only burn still standing enemies.... it was god before that.

Thom Bangalter · Sep 22, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

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Originally Posted by Lordhelmos

Bed of coals is superior for scatter tactics. It has a low cast time and affects your location so it makes it easier to control. For example, if my monk is under heavy fire i just run to him and bed of coals the area. Enemies burn or run and take decent damage if they stick around and my monk stays happy. Firestorm just plain sucks... the damage is crap, it can totally miss your enemy, and also scatters mobs or scatter the wrong area.... someone used it in a championship game awhile back.... im not sure why. Ditch it and grab something better like breath or fire, lavafont, or bed of coals.... too bad they nerfed the bed to only burn still standing enemies.... it was god before that.

your comparing firestorm pvp to firestorm pve, and that doesn't work. It's decent in pve because it slides under prot spirit, has a fairly large area of effect, and the damage numbers aren't that bad...the long casting time is a drawback though.